{"id":12310,"date":"2018-12-17T10:59:36","date_gmt":"2018-12-17T09:59:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/chartmogul.com\/blog\/?p=12310"},"modified":"2024-05-01T14:05:56","modified_gmt":"2024-05-01T12:05:56","slug":"david-skok-on-choosing-the-right-metrics-for-the-right-growth-stage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/chartmogul.com\/blog\/david-skok-on-choosing-the-right-metrics-for-the-right-growth-stage\/","title":{"rendered":"David Skok on choosing the right metrics for the right growth stage"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;I found some of my readers were obsessing over getting perfectly accurate CAC-LTV figures before they had a repeatable sales processes, so the data they had was completely meaningless&#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the world of SaaS, this guest needs no introduction. But it would be strange to not give one, so here goes&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">David Skok (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bostonvc\">@bostonVC<\/a>) is a former entrepreneur turned VC, who founded four companies before he turned his focus to investing. 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His industry-defining post, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forentrepreneurs.com\/saas-metrics-2\/\">SaaS Metrics 2.0<\/a> is the go-to reference for entrepreneurs and VCs alike, and serves as a guiding light for anyone who has a need to understand the principles and measurements behind a SaaS business.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This conversation was recorded at this year\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/saastock.com\">SaaStock<\/a> conference in Dublin, where I sat down with David in the SaaStock podcasting studio. We discussed a lot, including:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The stages that startups go through (and which metrics matter at each stage)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Mistakes that businesses make at each stage, and how it&#8217;s possible to fail by doing things too soon<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How to identify which phase of growth you&#8217;re at based on your data<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How founders need to scale the sales process and craft a repeatable model<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>What good productivity levels in sales really looks like<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>When to focus on pricing and getting to negative churn<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How David invented the concept of negative churn with Hubspot<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In addition to this, David broke the news that he&#8217;ll be working on a SaaS Metrics 3.0 blog post in the near future!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. 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